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Everyone
knows it’s the TV people who run the world [crowd laugher]. I just got
orders that I’m supposed to be here, not there. Well the last talk I
gave at this forum was on a light pleasant topic. It was about how
humans are an endangered species and given the nature of their
institutions they are likely to destroy themselves in a fairly short
time. So this time there is a little relief and we have a pleasant
topic instead, the new war on terror. Unfortunately, the world keeps
coming up with things that make it more and more horrible as we
proceed.
Assume 2 Conditions for this Talk
I’m going
to assume 2 conditions for this talk.
·
The first one is
just what I assume to be recognition of fact. That is that the events
of September 11 were a horrendous atrocity probably the most
devastating instant human toll of any crime in history, outside of
war.
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The second
assumption has to do with the goals. I’m assuming that our goal is
that we are interested in reducing the likelihood of such crimes
whether they are against us or against someone else.
If you
don’t accept those two assumptions, then what I say will not be
addressed to you. If we do accept them, then a number of questions
arise, closely related ones, which merit a good deal of thought.
The 5
Questions
One
question, and by far the most important one is what is happening right
now? Implicit in that is what can we do about it? The 2nd has to do
with the very common assumption that what happened on September 11 is
a historic event, one which will change history. I tend to agree with
that. I think it’s true. It was a historic event and the question we
should be asking is exactly why? The 3rd question has to do with the
title, The War Against Terrorism. Exactly what is it? And there is a
related question, namely what is terrorism? The 4th question which is
narrower but important has to do with the origins of the crimes of
September 11th. And the 5th question that I want to talk a little
about is what policy options there are in fighting this war against
terrorism and dealing with the situations that led to it.
I’ll say
a few things about each. Glad to go beyond in discussion and don’t
hesitate to bring up other questions. These are ones that come to my
mind as prominent but you may easily and plausibly have other choices.
1.
What’s Happening Right Now?
Starvation of 3 to 4 Million People
Well
let’s start with right now. I’ll talk about the situation in
Afghanistan. I’ll just keep to uncontroversial sources like the New
York Times [crowd laughter]. According to the New York Times there are
7 to 8 million people in Afghanistan on the verge of starvation. That
was true actually before September 11th. They were surviving on
international aid. On September 16th, the Times reported, I’m quoting
it, that the United States demanded from Pakistan the elimination of
truck convoys that provide much of the food and other supplies to
Afghanistan’s civilian population. As far as I could determine there
was no reaction in the United States or for that matter in Europe. I
was on national radio all over Europe the next day. There was no
reaction in the United States or in Europe to my knowledge to the
demand to impose massive starvation on millions of people. The threat
of military strikes right after September…..around that time forced
the removal of international aid workers that crippled the assistance
programs. Actually, I am quoting again from the New York Times.
Refugees reaching Pakistan after arduous journeys from AF are
describing scenes of desperation and fear at home as the threat of
American led military attacks turns their long running misery into a
potential catastrophe. The country was on a lifeline and we just cut
the line. Quoting an evacuated aid worker, in the New York Times
Magazine.
The World
Food Program, the UN program, which is the main one by far, were able
to resume after 3 weeks in early October, they began to resume at a
lower level, resume food shipments. They don’t have international aid
workers within, so the distribution system is hampered. That was
suspended as soon as the bombing began. They then resumed but at a
lower pace while aid agencies leveled scathing condemnations of US
airdrops, condemning them as propaganda tools which are probably doing
more harm than good. That happens to be quoting the London Financial
Times but it is easy to continue. After the first week of bombing, the
New York Times reported on a back page inside a column on something
else, that by the arithmetic of the United Nations there will soon be
7.5 million Afghans in acute need of even a loaf of bread and there
are only a few weeks left before the harsh winter will make deliveries
to many areas totally impossible, continuing to quote, but with bombs
falling the delivery rate is down to ½ of what is needed. Casual
comment. Which tells us that Western civilization is anticipating the
slaughter of, well do the arithmetic, 3-4 million people or something
like that. On the same day, the leader of Western civilization
dismissed with contempt, once again, offers of negotiation for
delivery of the alleged target, Osama bin Laden, and a request for
some evidence to substantiate the demand for total capitulation. It
was dismissed. On the same day the Special Rapporteur of the UN in
charge of food pleaded with the United States to stop the bombing to
try to save millions of victims. As far as I’m aware that was
unreported. That was Monday. Yesterday the major aid agencies OXFAM
and Christian Aid and others joined in that plea. You can’t find a
report in the New York Times. There was a line in the Boston Globe,
hidden in a story about another topic, Kashmir.
Silent
Genocide
Well we
could easily go on….but all of that….first of all indicates to us
what’s happening. Looks like what’s happening is some sort of silent
genocide. It also gives a good deal of insight into the elite culture,
the culture that we are part of. It indicates that whatever, what will
happen we don’t know, but plans are being made, and programs
implemented, on the assumption that they may lead to the death of
several million people in the next couple of weeks. Very casually with no
comment, no particular thought about it, that’s just kind of normal,
here and in a good part of Europe. Not in the rest of the world. In
fact not even in much of Europe. So if you read the Irish press or the
press in Scotland…that close, reactions are very different. Well
that’s what’s happening now. What’s happening now is very much under
our control. We can do a lot to affect what’s happening. And that’s
roughly it.
2. Why
was it a Historic Event?
National Territory Attacked
Alright
let’s turn to the slightly more abstract question, forgetting for the
moment that we are in the midst of apparently trying to murder 3 or 4
million people, not Taliban of course, their victims. Let’s go
back…turn to the question of the historic event that took place on
September 11th. As I said, I think that’s correct. It was a historic
event. Not unfortunately because of its scale, unpleasant to think
about, but in terms of the scale it’s not that unusual. I did say it’s
the worst…probably the worst instant human toll of any crime. And that
may be true. But there are terrorist crimes with effects a bit more
drawn out that are more extreme, unfortunately. Nevertheless, it’s a
historic event because there was a change. The change was the
direction in which the guns were pointed. That’s new. Radically new.
So, take US history.
The last
time that the national territory of the United States was under
attack, or for that matter, even threatened was when the British
burned down Washington in 1814. There have been many…it was common to
bring up Pearl Harbor but that’s not a good analogy. The Japanese,
what ever you think about it, the Japanese bombed military bases in 2
US colonies not the national territory; colonies which had been taken
from their inhabitants in not a very pretty way. This is the national
territory that’s been attacked on a large scale, you can find a few
fringe examples but this is unique.
During
these close to 200 years, we, the United States expelled or mostly
exterminated the indigenous population, that’s many millions of
people, conquered half of Mexico, carried out depredations all over
the region, Caribbean and Central America, sometimes beyond, conquered
Hawaii and the Philippines, killing several 100,000 Filipinos in the
process. Since the Second World War, it has extended its reach around
the world in ways I don’t have to describe. But it was always killing
someone else, the fighting was somewhere else, it was others who were
getting slaughtered. Not here. Not the national territory.
Europe
In the
case of Europe, the change is even more dramatic because its history
is even more horrendous than ours. We are an offshoot of Europe,
basically. For hundreds of years, Europe has been casually
slaughtering people all over the world. That’s how they conquered the
world, not by handing out candy to babies. During this period, Europe
did suffer murderous wars, but that was European killers murdering one
another. The main sport of Europe for hundreds of years was
slaughtering one another. The only reason that it came to an end in
1945, was….it had nothing to do with Democracy or not making war with
each other and other fashionable notions. It had to do with the fact
that everyone understood that the next time they play the game it was
going to be the end for the world. Because the Europeans, including
us, had developed such massive weapons of destruction that that game
just have to be over. And it goes back hundreds of years. In the 17th
century, about probably 40% of the entire population of Germany was
wiped out in one war.
But
during this whole bloody murderous period, it was Europeans
slaughtering each other, and Europeans slaughtering people elsewhere.
The Congo didn’t attack Belgium, India didn’t attack England, Algeria
didn’t attack France. It’s uniform. There are again small exceptions,
but pretty small in scale, certainly invisible in the scale of what
Europe and us were doing to the rest of the world. This is the first
change. The first time that the guns have been pointed the other way.
And in my opinion that’s probably why you see such different reactions
on the two sides of the Irish Sea which I have noticed, incidentally,
in many interviews on both sides, national radio on both sides. The
world looks very different depending on whether you are holding the
lash or whether you are being whipped by it for hundreds of years,
very different. So I think the shock and surprise in Europe and its
offshoots, like here, is very understandable. It is a historic event
but regrettably not in scale, in something else and a reason why the
rest of the world…most of the rest of the world looks at it quite
differently. Not lacking sympathy for the victims of the atrocity or
being horrified by them, that’s almost uniform, but viewing it from a
different perspective. Something we might want to understand.
3.
What is the War Against Terrorism?
Well,
let’s go to the third question, ‘What is the war against terrorism?’
and a side question, ‘What’s terrorism?’. The war against terrorism
has been described in high places as a struggle against a plague, a
cancer which is spread by barbarians, by “depraved opponents of
civilization itself.” That’s a feeling that I share. The words I’m
quoting, however, happen to be from 20 years ago. Those are…that’s
President Reagan and his Secretary of State. The Reagan administration
came into office 20 years ago declaring that the war against
international terrorism would be the core of our foreign
policy….describing it in terms of the kind I just mentioned and
others. And it was the core of our foreign policy. The Reagan
administration responded to this plague spread by depraved opponents
of civilization itself by creating an extraordinary international
terrorist network, totally unprecedented in scale, which carried out
massive atrocities all over the world, primarily….well, partly nearby,
but not only there. I won’t run through the record, you’re all
educated people, so I’m sure you learned about it in High School.
[crowd laughter]
Reagan-US War Against Nicaragua
But I’ll
just mention one case which is totally uncontroversial, so we might as
well not argue about it, by no means the most extreme but
uncontroversial. It’s uncontroversial because of the judgments of the
highest international authorities the International Court of Justice,
the World Court, and the UN Security Council. So this one is
uncontroversial, at least among people who have some minimal concern
for international law, human rights, justice and other things like
that. And now I’ll leave you an exercise. You can estimate the size of
that category by simply asking how often this uncontroversial case has
been mentioned in the commentary of the last month. And it’s a
particularly relevant one, not only because it is uncontroversial, but
because it does offer a precedent as to how a law abiding state would
respond to…did respond in fact to international terrorism, which is
uncontroversial. And was even more extreme than the events of
September 11th. I’m talking about the Reagan-US war against Nicaragua
which left tens of thousands of people dead, the country ruined,
perhaps beyond recovery.
Nicaragua’s Response
Nicaragua did
respond. They didn’t
respond by setting off bombs in Washington. They responded by taking
it to the World Court, presenting a case, they had no problem putting
together evidence. The World Court accepted their case, ruled in their
favor, ordered the…condemned what they called the “unlawful use of
force,” which is another word for international terrorism, by the
United States, ordered the United States to terminate the crime and to
pay massive reparations. The United States, of course, dismissed the
court judgment with total contempt and announced that it would not
accept the jurisdiction of the court henceforth. Then Nicaragua then
went to the UN Security Council which considered a resolution calling
on all states to observe international law. No one was mentioned but
everyone understood. The United States vetoed the resolution. It now
stands as the only state on record which has both been condemned by
the World Court for international terrorism and has vetoed a Security
Council resolution calling on states to observe international law.
Nicaragua then went to the General Assembly where there is technically
no veto but a negative US vote amounts to a veto. It passed a similar
resolution with only the United States, Israel, and El Salvador
opposed. The following year again, this time the United States could
only rally Israel to the cause, so 2 votes opposed to observing
international law. At that point, Nicaragua couldn’t do anything
lawful. It tried all the measures. They don’t work in a world that is
ruled by force.
This case
is uncontroversial but it’s by no means the most extreme. We gain a
lot of insight into our own culture and society and what’s happening
now by asking ‘how much we know about all this? How much we talk about
it? How much you learn about it in school? How much it’s all over the
front pages?’ And this is only the beginning. The United States
responded to the World Court and the Security Council by immediately
escalating the war very quickly, that was a bipartisan decision
incidentally. The terms of the war were also changed. For the first
time there were official orders given…official orders to the terrorist
army to attack what are called “soft targets,” meaning undefended
civilian targets, and to keep away from the Nicaraguan army. They were
able to do that because the United States had total control of the air
over Nicaragua and the mercenary army was supplied with advanced
communication equipment, it wasn’t a guerilla army in the normal sense
and could get instructions about the disposition of the Nicaraguan
army forces so they could attack agricultural collectives, health
clinics, and so on…soft targets with impunity. Those were the official
orders.
What
was the Reaction Here?
What was
the reaction? It was known. There was a reaction to it. The policy was
regarded as sensible by left liberal opinion. So Michael Kinsley who
represents the left in mainstream discussion, wrote an article in
which he said that we shouldn’t be too quick to criticize this policy
as Human Rights Watch had just done. He said a “sensible policy” must
“meet the test of cost benefit analysis” -- that is, I’m quoting now,
that is the analysis of “the amount of blood and misery that will be
poured in, and the likelihood that democracy will emerge at the other
end.” Democracy as the US understands the term, which is graphically
illustrated in the surrounding countries. Notice that it is axiomatic
that the United States, US elites, have the right to conduct the
analysis and to pursue the project if it passes their tests. And it
did pass their tests. It worked. When Nicaragua finally succumbed to
superpower assault, commentators openly and cheerfully lauded the
success of the methods that were adopted and described them
accurately. So I’ll quote Time Magazine just to pick one. They lauded
the success of the methods adopted: “to wreck the economy and
prosecute a long and deadly proxy war until the exhausted natives
overthrow the unwanted government themselves,” with a cost to us that
is “minimal,” and leaving the victims “with wrecked bridges, sabotaged
power stations, and ruined farms,” and thus providing the US candidate
with a “winning issue”: “ending the impoverishment of the people of
Nicaragua.” The New York Times had a headline saying “Americans United
in Joy” at this outcome.
Terrorism Works – Terrorism is not the Weapon of the Weak
That is
the culture in which we live and it reveals several facts. One is the
fact that terrorism works. It doesn’t fail. It works. Violence usually
works. That’s world history. Secondly, it’s a very serious analytic
error to say, as is commonly done, that terrorism is the weapon of the
weak. Like other means of violence, it’s primarily a weapon of the
strong, overwhelmingly, in fact. It is held to be a weapon of the weak
because the strong also control the doctrinal systems and their terror
doesn’t count as terror. Now that’s close to universal. I can’t think
of a historical exception, even the worst mass murderers view the
world that way. So pick the Nazis. They weren’t carrying out terror in
occupied Europe. They were protecting the local population from the
terrorisms of the partisans. And like other resistance movements,
there was terrorism. The Nazis were carrying out counter terror.
Furthermore, the United States essentially agreed with that. After the
war, the US army did extensive studies of Nazi counter terror
operations in Europe. First I should say that the US picked them up
and began carrying them out itself, often against the same targets,
the former resistance. But the military also studied the Nazi methods
published interesting studies, sometimes critical of them because they
were inefficiently carried out, so a critical analysis, you didn’t do
this right, you did that right, but those methods with the advice of
Wermacht officers who were brought over here became the manuals of
counter insurgency, of counter terror, of low intensity conflict, as
it is called, and are the manuals, and are the procedures that are
being used. So it’s not just that the Nazis did it. It’s that it was
regarded as the right thing to do by the leaders of western
civilization, that is us, who then proceeded to do it themselves.
Terrorism is not the weapon of the weak. It is the weapon of those who
are against ‘us’ whoever ‘us’ happens to be. And if you can find a
historical exception to that, I’d be interested in seeing it.
Nature
of our Culture – How We Regard Terrorism
Well, an
interesting indication of the nature of our culture, our high culture,
is the way in which all of this is regarded. One way it’s regarded is
just suppressing it. So almost nobody has ever heard of it. And the
power of American propaganda and doctrine is so strong that even among
the victims it’s barely known. I mean, when you talk about this to
people in Argentina, you have to remind them. Oh, yeh, that happened,
we forgot about it. It’s deeply suppressed. The sheer consequences of
the monopoly of violence can be very powerful in ideological and other
terms.
The
Idea that Nicaragua Might Have The Right To Defend Itself
Well, one
illuminating aspect of our own attitude toward terrorism is the
reaction to the idea that Nicaragua might have the right to defend
itself. Actually I went through this in some detail with database
searches and that sort of thing. The idea that Nicaragua might have
the right to defend itself was considered outrageous. There is
virtually nothing in mainstream commentary indicating that Nicaragua
might have that right. And that fact was exploited by the Reagan
administration and its propaganda in an interesting way. Those of you
who were around in that time will remember that they periodically
floated rumors that the Nicaraguans were getting MIG jets, jets from
Russia. At that point the hawks and the doves split. The hawks said,
‘ok, let’s bomb ‘em.’ The doves said, `wait a minute, let’s see if the
rumors are true. And if the rumors are true, then let’s bomb them.
Because they are a threat to the United States.’ Why, incidentally
were they getting MIGs. Well they tried to get jet planes from
European countries but the United States put pressure on its allies so
that it wouldn’t send them means of defense because they wanted them
to turn to the Russians. That’s good for propaganda purposes. Then
they become a threat to us. Remember, they were just 2 days march from
Harlingen, Texas. We actually declared a national emergency in 1985 to
protect the country from the threat of Nicaragua. And it stayed in
force. So it was much better for them to get arms from the Russians.
Why would they want jet planes? Well, for the reasons I already
mentioned. The United States had total control over their airspace,
was over flying it and using that to provide instructions to the
terrorist army to enable them to attack soft targets without running
into the army that might defend them. Everyone knew that that was the
reason. They are not going to use their jet planes for anything else.
But the idea that Nicaragua should be permitted to defend its airspace
against a superpower attack that is directing terrorist forces to
attack undefended civilian targets, that was considered in the United
States as outrageous and uniformly so. Exceptions are so slight, you
know I can practically list them. I don’t suggest that you take my
word for this. Have a look. That includes our own senators,
incidentally.
Honduras – The Appointment of John Negroponte as Ambassador to the
United Nations
Another
illustration of how we regard terrorism is happening right now. The US
has just appointed an ambassador to the United Nations to lead the war
against terrorism a couple weeks ago. Who is he? Well, his name is
John Negroponte. He was the US ambassador in the fiefdom, which is
what it is, of Honduras in the early 1980’s. There was a little fuss
made about the fact that he must have been aware, as he certainly was,
of the large-scale murders and other atrocities that were being
carried out by the security forces in Honduras that we were
supporting. But that’s a small part of it. As proconsul of Honduras,
as he was called there, he was the local supervisor for the terrorist
war based in Honduras, for which his government was condemned by the
world court and then the Security Council in a vetoed resolution. And
he was just appointed as the UN Ambassador to lead the war against
terror. Another small experiment you can do is check and see what the
reaction was to this. Well, I will tell you what you are going to
find, but find it for yourself. Now that tells us a lot about the war
against terrorism and a lot about ourselves.
After the
United States took over the country again under the conditions that
were so graphically described by the press, the country was pretty
much destroyed in the 1980’s, but it has totally collapsed since in
every respect just about. Economically it has declined sharply since
the US take over, democratically and in every other respect. It’s now
the second poorest country in the Hemisphere. I should say….I’m not
going to talk about it, but I mentioned that I picked up Nicaragua
because it is an uncontroversial case. If you look at the other states
in the region, the state terror was far more extreme and it again
traces back to Washington and that’s by no means all.
US &
UK Backed South African Attacks
It was
happening elsewhere in the world too, take say Africa. During the
Reagan years alone, South African attacks, backed by the United States
and Britain, US/UK-backed South African attacks against the
neighboring countries killed about a million and a half people and
left 60 billion dollars in damage and countries destroyed. And if we
go around the world, we can add more examples.
Now that
was the first war against terror of which I’ve given a small sample.
Are we supposed to pay attention to that? Or kind of think that that
might be relevant? After all it’s not exactly ancient history. Well,
evidently not as you can tell by looking at the current discussion of
the war on terror which has been the leading topic for the last month.
Haiti,
Guatemala, and Nicaragua
I
mentioned that Nicaragua has now become the 2nd poorest country in the
hemisphere. What’s the poorest country? Well that’s of course Haiti
which also happens to be the victim of most US intervention in the
20th century by a long shot. We left it totally devastated. It’s the
poorest country. Nicaragua is second ranked in degree of US
intervention in the 20th century. It is the 2nd poorest. Actually, it
is vying with Guatemala. They interchange every year or two as to
who’s the second poorest. And they also vie as to who is the leading
target of US military intervention. We’re supposed to think that all
of this is some sort of accident. That is has nothing to do with
anything that happened in history. Maybe.
Colombia and Turkey
The worst
human rights violator in the 1990’s is Colombia, by a long shot. It’s
also the, by far, the leading recipient of US military aid in the
1990’s maintaining the terror and human rights violations. In 1999,
Colombia replaced Turkey as the leading recipient of US arms
worldwide, that is excluding Israel and Egypt which are a separate
category. And that tells us a lot more about the war on terror right
now, in fact.
Why was
Turkey getting such a huge flow of US arms? Well if you take a look at
the flow of US arms to Turkey, Turkey always got a lot of US arms.
It’s strategically placed, a member of NATO, and so on. But the arms
flow to Turkey went up very sharply in 1984. It didn’t have anything
to do with the cold war. I mean Russian was collapsing. And it stayed
high from 1984 to 1999 when it reduced and it was replaced in the lead
by Colombia. What happened from 1984 to 1999? Well, in 1984, [Turkey]
launched a major terrorist war against Kurds in southeastern Turkey.
And that’s when US aid went up, military aid. And this was not
pistols. This was jet planes, tanks, military training, and so on. And
it stayed high as the atrocities escalated through the 1990’s. Aid
followed it. The peak year was 1997. In 1997, US military aid to
Turkey was more than in the entire period 1950 to 1983, that is the
cold war period, which is an indication of how much the cold war has
affected policy. And the results were awesome. This led to 2-3 million
refugees. Some of the worst ethnic cleansing of the late 1990’s. Tens
of thousands of people killed, 3500 towns and villages destroyed, way
more than Kosovo, even under NATO bombs. And the United States was
providing 80% of the arms, increasing as the atrocities increased,
peaking in 1997. It declined in 1999 because, once again, terror
worked as it usually does when carried out by its major agents, mainly
the powerful. So by 1999, Turkish terror, called of course
counter-terror, but as I said, that’s universal, it worked. Therefore
Turkey was replaced by Colombia which had not yet succeeded in its
terrorist war. And therefore had to move into first place as recipient
of US arms.
Self
Congratulation on the Part of Western Intellectuals
Well,
what makes this all particularly striking is that all of this was
taking place right in the midst of a huge flood of self-congratulation
on the part of Western intellectuals which probably has no counterpart
in history. I mean you all remember it. It was just a couple years
ago. Massive self-adulation about how for the first time in history we
are so magnificent; that we are standing up for principles and values;
dedicated to ending inhumanity everywhere in the new era of
this-and-that, and so-on-and-so-forth. And we certainly can’t tolerate
atrocities right near the borders of NATO. That was repeated over and
over. Only within the borders of NATO where we can not only can
tolerate much worse atrocities but contribute to them. Another insight
into Western civilization and our own, is how often was this brought
up? Try to look. I won’t repeat it. But it’s instructive. It’s a
pretty impressive feat for a propaganda system to carry this off in a
free society. It’s pretty amazing. I don’t think you could do this in
a totalitarian state.
Turkey
is Very Grateful
And
Turkey is very grateful. Just a few days ago, Prime Minister Ecevit
announced that Turkey would join the coalition against terror, very
enthusiastically, even more so than others. In fact, he said they
would contribute troops which others have not willing to do. And he
explained why. He said, We owe a debt of gratitude to the United
States because the United States was the only country that was willing
to contribute so massively to our own, in his words
“counter-terrorist” war, that is to our own massive ethnic cleansing
and atrocities and terror. Other countries helped a little, but they
stayed back. The United States, on the other hand, contributed
enthusiastically and decisively and was able to do so because of the
silence, servility might be the right word, of the educated classes
who could easily find out about it. It’s a free country after all. You
can read human rights reports. You can read all sorts of stuff. But we
chose to contribute to the atrocities and Turkey is very happy, they
owe us a debt of gratitude for that and therefore will contribute
troops just as during the war in Serbia. Turkey was very much praised
for using its F-16’s which we supplied it to bomb Serbia exactly as it
had been doing with the same planes against its own population up
until the time when it finally succeeded in crushing internal terror
as they called it. And as usual, as always, resistance does include
terror. Its true of the American Revolution. That’s true of every case
I know. Just as its true that those who have a monopoly of violence
talk about themselves as carrying out counter terror.
The
Coalition – Including Algeria, Russia, China, Indonesia
Now
that’s pretty impressive and that has to do with the coalition that is
now being organized to fight the war against terror. And it’s very
interesting to see how that coalition is being described. So have a
look at this morning’s Christian Science Monitor. That’s a good
newspaper. One of the best international newspapers, with real
coverage of the world. The lead story, the front-page story, is about
how the United States, you know people used to dislike the United
States but now they are beginning to respect it, and they are very
happy about the way that the US is leading the war against terror. And
the prime example, well in fact the only serious example, the others
are a joke, is Algeria. Turns out that Algeria is very enthusiastic
about the US war against terror. The person who wrote the article is
an expert on Africa. He must know that Algeria is one of the most
vicious terrorist states in the world and has been carrying out
horrendous terror against its own population in the past couple of
years, in fact. For a while, this was under wraps. But it was finally
exposed in France by defectors from the Algerian army. It’s all over
the place there and in England and so on. But here, we’re very proud
because one of the worst terrorist states in the world is now
enthusiastically welcoming the US war on terror and in fact is
cheering on the United States to lead the war. That shows how popular
we are getting.
And if
you look at the coalition that is being formed against terror it tells
you a lot more. A leading member of the coalition is Russia which is
delighted to have the United States support its murderous terrorist
war in Chechnya instead of occasionally criticizing it in the
background. China is joining enthusiastically. It’s delighted to have
support for the atrocities it’s carrying out in western China against,
what it called, Muslim secessionists. Turkey, as I mentioned, is very
happy with the war against terror. They are experts. Algeria,
Indonesia delighted to have even more US support for atrocities it is
carrying out in Ache and elsewhere. Now we can run through the list,
the list of the states that have joined the coalition against terror
is quite impressive. They have a characteristic in common. They are
certainly among the leading terrorist states in the world. And they
happen to be led by the world champion.
What
is Terrorism?
Well that
brings us back to the question, what is terrorism? I have been
assuming we understand it. Well, what is it? Well, there happen to be
some easy answers to this. There is an official definition. You can
find it in the US code or in US army manuals. A brief statement of it
taken from a US army manual, is fair enough, is that terror is the
calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to attain
political or religious ideological goals through intimidation,
coercion, or instilling fear. That’s terrorism. That’s a fair enough
definition. I think it is reasonable to accept that. The problem is
that it can’t be accepted because if you accept that, all the wrong
consequences follow. For example, all the consequences I have just
been reviewing. Now there is a major effort right now at the UN to try
to develop a comprehensive treaty on terrorism. When Kofi Annan got
the Nobel prize the other day, you will notice he was reported as
saying that we should stop wasting time on this and really get down to
it.
But
there’s a problem. If you use the official definition of terrorism in
the comprehensive treaty you are going to get completely the wrong
results. So that can’t be done. In fact, it is even worse than that.
If you take a look at the definition of Low Intensity Warfare which is
official US policy you find that it is a very close paraphrase of what
I just read. In fact, Low Intensity Conflict is just another name for
terrorism. That’s why all countries, as far as I know, call whatever
horrendous acts they are carrying out, counter terrorism. We happen to
call it Counter Insurgency or Low Intensity Conflict. So that’s a
serious problem. You can’t use the actual definitions. You’ve got to
carefully find a definition that doesn’t have all the wrong
consequences.
Why
did the United States and Israel Vote Against a Major Resolution
Condemning Terrorism?
There are
some other problems. Some of them came up in December 1987, at the
peak of the first war on terrorism, that’s when the furor over the
plague was peaking. The United Nations General Assembly passed a very
strong resolution against terrorism, condemning the plague in the
strongest terms, calling on every state to fight against it in every
possible way. It passed unanimously. One country, Honduras abstained.
Two votes against; the usual two, United States and Israel. Why should
the United States and Israel vote against a major resolution
condemning terrorism in the strongest terms, in fact pretty much the
terms that the Reagan administration was using? Well, there is a
reason. There is one paragraph in that long resolution which says that
nothing in this resolution infringes on the rights of people
struggling against racist and colonialist regimes or foreign military
occupation to continue with their resistance with the assistance of
others, other states, states outside in their just cause. Well, the
United States and Israel can’t accept that. The main reason that they
couldn’t at the time was because of South Africa. South Africa was an
ally, officially called an ally. There was a terrorist force in South
Africa. It was called the African National Congress. They were a
terrorist force officially. South Africa in contrast was an ally and
we certainly couldn’t support actions by a terrorist group struggling
against a racist regime. That would be impossible.
And of
course there is another one. Namely the Israeli occupied territories,
now going into its 35th year. Supported primarily by the United States
in blocking a diplomatic settlement for 30 years now, still is. And
you can’t have that. There is another one at the time. Israel was
occupying Southern Lebanon and was being combated by what the US calls
a terrorist force, Hizbullah, which in fact succeeded in driving
Israel out of Lebanon. And we can’t allow anyone to struggle against a
military occupation when it is one that we support so therefore the US
and Israel had to vote against the major UN resolution on terrorism.
And I mentioned before that a US vote against…is essentially a veto.
Which is only half the story. It also vetoes it from history. So none
of this was every reported and none of it appeared in the annals of
terrorism. If you look at the scholarly work on terrorism and so on,
nothing that I just mentioned appears. The reason is that it has got
the wrong people holding the guns. You have to carefully hone the
definitions and the scholarship and so on so that you come out with
the right conclusions; otherwise it is not respectable scholarship and
honorable journalism. Well, these are some of problems that are
hampering the effort to develop a comprehensive treaty against
terrorism. Maybe we should have an academic conference or something to
try to see if we can figure out a way of defining terrorism so that it
comes out with just the right answers, not the wrong answers. That
won’t be easy.
4.
What are the Origins of the September 11 Crime?
Well,
let’s drop that and turn to the 4th question, What are the origins of
the September 11 crimes? Here we have to make a distinction between 2
categories which shouldn’t be run together. One is the actual agents
of the crime, the other is kind of a reservoir of at least sympathy,
sometimes support that they appeal to even among people who very much
oppose the criminals and the actions. And those are 2 different
things.
Category 1: The Likely Perpetrators
Well,
with regard to the perpetrators, in a certain sense we are not really
clear. The United States either is unable or unwilling to provide any
evidence, any meaningful evidence. There was a sort of a play a week
or two ago when Tony Blair was set up to try to present it. I don’t
exactly know what the purpose of this was. Maybe so that the US could
look as though it’s holding back on some secret evidence that it can’t
reveal or that Tony Blair could strike proper Churchillian poses or
something or other. Whatever the PR [public relations] reasons were,
he gave a presentation which was in serious circles considered so
absurd that it was barely even mentioned. So the Wall Street Journal,
for example, one of the more serious papers had a small story on page
12, I think, in which they pointed out that there was not much
evidence and then they quoted some high US official as saying that it
didn’t matter whether there was any evidence because they were going
to do it anyway. So why bother with the evidence? The more ideological
press, like the New York Times and others, they had big front-page
headlines. But the Wall Street Journal reaction was reasonable and if
you look at the so-called evidence you can see why. But let’s assume
that it’s true. It is astonishing to me how weak the evidence was. I
sort of thought you could do better than that without any intelligence
service [audience laughter]. In fact, remember this was after weeks of
the most intensive investigation in history of all the intelligence
services of the western world working overtime trying to put something
together. And it was a prima facie, it was a very strong case even
before you had anything. And it ended up about where it started, with
a prima facie case. So let’s assume that it is true. So let’s assume
that, it looked obvious the first day, still does, that the actual
perpetrators come from the radical Islamic, here called,
fundamentalist networks of which the bin Laden network is undoubtedly
a significant part. Whether they were involved or not nobody knows. It
doesn’t really matter much.
Where
did they come from?
That’s
the background, those networks. Well, where do they come from? We know
all about that. Nobody knows about that better than the CIA because it
helped organize them and it nurtured them for a long time. They were
brought together in the 1980’s actually by the CIA and its associates
elsewhere: Pakistan, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China was
involved, they may have been involved a little bit earlier, maybe by
1978. The idea was to try to harass the Russians, the common enemy.
According to President Carter’s National Security Advisor, Zbigniew
Brzezinski, the US got involved in mid 1979. Do you remember, just to
put the dates right, that Russia invaded Afghanistan in December 1979.
Ok. According to Brzezinski, the US support for the mojahedin fighting
against the government began 6 months earlier. He is very proud of
that. He says we drew the Russians into, in his words, an Afghan trap,
by supporting the mojahedin, getting them to invade, getting them into
the trap. Now then we could develop this terrific mercenary army. Not
a small one, maybe 100,000 men or so bringing together the best
killers they could find, who were radical Islamist fanatics from
around North Africa, Saudi Arabia….anywhere they could find them. They
were often called the Afghanis but many of them, like bin Laden, were
not Afghans. They were brought by the CIA and its friends from
elsewhere. Whether Brzezinski is telling the truth or not, I don’t
know. He may have been bragging, he is apparently very proud of it,
knowing the consequences incidentally. But maybe it’s true. We’ll know
someday if the documents are ever released. Anyway, that’s his
perception. By January 1980 it is not even in doubt that the US was
organizing the Afghanis and this massive military force to try to
cause the Russians maximal trouble. It was a legitimate thing for the
Afghans to fight the Russian invasion. But the US intervention was not
helping the Afghans. In fact, it helped destroy the country and much
more. The Afghanis, so called, had their own...it did force the
Russians to withdrew, finally. Although many analysts believe that it
probably delayed their withdrawal because they were trying to get out
of it. Anyway, whatever, they did withdraw.
Meanwhile, the terrorist forces that the CIA was organizing, arming,
and training were pursuing their own agenda, right away. It was no
secret. One of the first acts was in 1981 when they assassinated the
President of Egypt, who was one of the most enthusiastic of their
creators. In 1983, one suicide bomber, who may or may not have been
connected, it’s pretty shadowy, nobody knows. But one suicide bomber
drove the US army-military out of Lebanon. And it continued. They have
their own agenda. The US was happy to mobilize them to fight its cause
but meanwhile they are doing their own thing. They were clear very
about it. After 1989, when the Russians had withdrawn, they simply
turned elsewhere. Since then they have been fighting in Chechnya,
Western China, Bosnia, Kashmir, South East Asia, North Africa, all
over the place.
The
Are Telling Us What They Think
They are
telling us just what they think. The United States wants to silence
the one free television channel in the Arab world because it’s
broadcasting a whole range of things from Powell over to Osama bin
Laden. So the US is now joining the repressive regimes of the Arab
world that try to shut it up. But if you listen to it, if you listen
to what bin Laden says, it’s worth it. There is plenty of interviews.
And there are plenty of interviews by leading Western reporters, if
you don’t want to listen to his own voice, Robert Fisk and others. And
what he has been saying is pretty consistent for a long time. He’s not
the only one but maybe he is the most eloquent. It’s not only
consistent over a long time, it is consistent with their actions. So
there is every reason to take it seriously. Their prime enemy is what
they call the corrupt and oppressive authoritarian brutal regimes of
the Arab world and when the say that they get quite a resonance in the
region. They also want to defend and they want to replace them by
properly Islamist governments. That’s where they lose the people of
the region. But up till then, they are with them. From their point of
view, even Saudi Arabia, the most extreme fundamentalist state in the
world, I suppose, short of the Taliban, which is an offshoot, even
that’s not Islamist enough for them. Ok, at that point, they get very
little support, but up until that point they get plenty of support.
Also they want to defend Muslims elsewhere. They hate the Russians
like poison, but as soon as the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan,
they stopped carrying out terrorist acts in Russia as they had been
doing with CIA backing before that within Russia, not just in
Afghanistan. They did move over to Chechnya. But there they are
defending Muslims against a Russian invasion. Same with all the other
places I mentioned. From their point of view, they are defending the
Muslims against the infidels. And they are very clear about it and
that is what they have been doing.
Why
did they turn against the United States?
Now why
did they turn against the United States? Well that had to do with what
they call the US invasion of Saudi Arabia. In 1990, the US established
permanent military bases in Saudi Arabia which from their point of
view is comparable to a Russian invasion of Afghanistan except that
Saudi Arabia is way more important. That’s the home of the holiest
sites of Islam. And that is when their activities turned against the
Unites States. If you recall, in 1993 they tried to blow up the World
Trade Center. Got part of the way, but not the whole way and that was
only part of it. The plans were to blow up the UN building, the
Holland and Lincoln tunnels, the FBI building. I think there were
others on the list. Well, they sort of got part way, but not all the
way. One person who is jailed for that, finally, among the people who
were jailed, was a Egyptian cleric who had been brought into the
United States over the objections of the Immigration Service, thanks
to the intervention of the CIA which wanted to help out their friend.
A couple years later he was blowing up the World Trade Center. And
this has been going on all over. I’m not going to run through the list
but it’s, if you want to understand it, it’s consistent. It’s a
consistent picture. It’s described in words. It’s revealed in practice
for 20 years. There is no reason not to take it seriously. That’s the
first category, the likely perpetrators.
Category 2: What about the reservoir of support?
What
about the reservoir of support? Well, it’s not hard to find out what
that is. One of the good things that has happened since September 11
is that some of the press and some of the discussion has begun to open
up to some of these things. The best one to my knowledge is the Wall
Street Journal which right away began to run, within a couple of days,
serious reports, searching serious reports, on the reasons why the
people of the region, even though they hate bin Laden and despise
everything he is doing, nevertheless support him in many ways and even
regard him as the conscience of Islam, as one said. Now the Wall
Street Journal and others, they are not surveying public opinion. They
are surveying the opinion of their friends: bankers, professionals,
international lawyers, businessmen tied to the United States, people
who they interview in McDonald's restaurant,
which is an elegant restaurant there, wearing fancy American clothes.
That’s the people they are interviewing because they want to find out
what their attitudes are. And their attitudes are very explicit and
very clear and in many ways consonant with the message of bin Laden
and others. They are very angry at the United States because of its
support of authoritarian and brutal regimes; its intervention to block
any move towards democracy; its intervention to stop economic
development; its policies of devastating the civilian societies of
Iraq while strengthening Saddam Hussein; and they remember, even if we
prefer not to, that the United States and Britain supported Saddam
Hussein right through his worst atrocities, including the gassing of
the Kurds, bin Laden brings that up constantly, and they know it even
if we don’t want to. And of course their support for the Israeli
military occupation which is harsh and brutal. It is now in its 35th
year. The US has been providing the overwhelming economic, military,
and diplomatic support for it, and still does. And they know that and
they don’t like it. Especially when that is paired with US policy
towards Iraq, towards the Iraqi civilian society which is getting
destroyed. Ok, those are the reasons roughly. And when bin Laden gives
those reasons, people recognize it and support it.
Now
that’s not the way people here like to think about it, at least
educated liberal opinion. They like the following line which has been
all over the press, mostly from left liberals, incidentally. I have
not done a real study but I think right wing opinion has generally
been more honest. But if you look at say at the New York Times at the
first op-ed they ran by Ronald Steel, serious left liberal
intellectual. He asks Why do they hate us? This is the same day, I
think, that the Wall Street Journal was running the survey on why they
hate us. So he says “They hate us because we champion a new world
order of capitalism, individualism, secularism, and democracy that
should be the norm everywhere.” That’s why they hate us. The same day
the Wall Street Journal is surveying the opinions of bankers,
professionals, international lawyers and saying `look, we hate you
because you are blocking democracy, you are preventing economic
development, you are supporting brutal regimes, terrorist regimes and
you are doing these horrible things in the region.’ A couple days
later, Anthony Lewis, way out on the left, explained that the
terrorist seek only “apocalyptic nihilism,” nothing more and nothing
we do matters. The only consequence of our actions, he says, that
could be harmful is that it makes it harder for Arabs to join in the
coalition’s anti-terrorism effort. But beyond that, everything we do
is irrelevant.
Well, you
know, that’s got the advantage of being sort of comforting. It makes
you feel good about yourself, and how wonderful you are. It enables us
to evade the consequences of our actions. It has a couple of defects.
One is it is at total variance with everything we know. And another
defect is that it is a perfect way to ensure that you escalate the
cycle of violence. If you want to live with your head buried in the
sand and pretend they hate us because they’re opposed to
globalization, that’s why they killed Sadat 20 years ago, and fought
the Russians, tried to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993. And
these are all people who are in the midst of … corporate globalization
but if you want to believe that, yeh…comforting. And it is a great way
to make sure that violence escalates. That’s tribal violence. You did
something to me, I’ll do something worse to you. I don’t care what the
reasons are. We just keep going that way. And that’s a way to do it.
Pretty much straight, left-liberal opinion.
5.
What are the Policy Options?
What are
the policy options? Well, there are a number. A narrow policy option
from the beginning was to follow the advice of really far out radicals
like the Pope [audience laughter]. The Vatican immediately said look
it’s a horrible terrorist crime. In the case of crime, you try to find
the perpetrators, you bring them to justice, you try them. You don’t
kill innocent civilians. Like if somebody robs my house and I think
the guy who did it is probably in the neighborhood across the street,
I don’t go out with an assault rifle and kill everyone in that
neighborhood. That’s not the way you deal with crime, whether it’s a
small crime like this one or really massive one like the US terrorist
war against Nicaragua, even worse ones and others in between. And
there are plenty of precedents for that. In fact, I mentioned a
precedent, Nicaragua, a lawful, a law abiding state, that’s why
presumably we had to destroy it, which followed the right principles.
Now of course, it didn’t get anywhere because it was running up
against a power that wouldn’t allow lawful procedures to be followed.
But if the United States tried to pursue them, nobody would stop them.
In fact, everyone would applaud. And there are plenty of other
precedents.
IRA
Bombs in London
When the
IRA set off bombs in London, which is pretty serious business, Britain
could have, apart from the fact that it was unfeasible, let’s put that
aside, one possible response would have been to destroy Boston which
is the source of most of the financing. And of course to wipe out West
Belfast. Well, you know, quite apart from the feasibility, it would
have been criminal idiocy. The way to deal with it was pretty much
what they did. You know, find the perpetrators; bring them to trial;
and look for the reasons. Because these things don’t come out of
nowhere. They come from something. Whether it is a crime in the
streets or a monstrous terrorist crime or anything else. There’s
reasons. And usually if you look at the reasons, some of them are
legitimate and ought to be addressed, independently of the crime, they
ought to be addressed because they are legitimate. And that’s the way
to deal with it. There are many such examples.
But there are problems
with that. One problem is that the United States does not recognize
the jurisdiction of international institutions. So it can’t go to
them. It has rejected the jurisdiction of the World Court. It has
refused to ratify the International Criminal Court. It is powerful
enough to set up a new court if it wants so that wouldn’t stop
anything. But there is a problem with any kind of a court, mainly you
need evidence. You go to any kind of court, you need some kind of
evidence. Not Tony Blair talking about it on television. And that’s
very hard. It may be impossible to find.
Leaderless Resistance
You know,
it could be that the people who did it, killed themselves. Nobody
knows this better than the CIA. These are decentralized, nonhierarchic
networks. They follow a principle that is called Leaderless
Resistance. That’s the principle that has been developed by the
Christian Right terrorists in the United States. It’s called
Leaderless Resistance. You have small groups that do things. They
don’t talk to anybody else. There is a kind of general background of
assumptions and then you do it. Actually people in the anti war
movement are very familiar with it. We used to call it affinity
groups. If you assume correctly that whatever group you are in is
being penetrated by the FBI, when something serious is happening, you
don’t do it in a meeting. You do it with some people you know and
trust, an affinity group and then it doesn’t get penetrated. That’s
one of the reasons why the FBI has never been able to figure out
what’s going on in any of the popular movements. And other
intelligence agencies are the same. They can’t. That’s leaderless
resistance or affinity groups, and decentralized networks are
extremely hard to penetrate. And it’s quite possible that they just
don’t know. When Osama bin Laden claims he wasn’t involved, that’s
entirely possible. In fact, it’s pretty hard to imagine how a guy in a
cave in Afghanistan, who doesn’t even have a radio or a telephone
could have planned a highly sophisticated operation like that. Chances
are it’s part of the background. You know, like other leaderless
resistance terrorist groups. Which means it’s going to be extremely
difficult to find evidence.
Establishing Credibility
And the
US doesn’t want to present evidence because it wants to be able to do
it, to act without evidence. That’s a crucial part of the reaction.
You will notice that the US did not ask for Security Council
authorization which they probably could have gotten this time, not for
pretty reasons, but because the other permanent members of the
Security Council are also terrorist states. They are happy to join a
coalition against what they call terror, namely in support of their
own terror. Like Russia wasn’t going to veto, they love it. So the US
probably could have gotten Security Council authorization but it
didn’t want it. And it didn’t want it because it follows a
long-standing principle which is not George Bush, it was explicit in
the Clinton administration, articulated and goes back much further and
that is that we have the right to act unilaterally. We don’t want
international authorization because we act unilaterally and therefore
we don’t want it. We don’t care about evidence. We don’t care about
negotiation. We don’t care about treaties. We are the strongest guy
around; the toughest thug on the block. We do what we want.
Authorization is a bad thing and therefore must be avoided. There is
even a name for it in the technical literature. It’s called
establishing credibility. You have to establish credibility. That’s an
important factor in many policies. It was the official reason given
for the war in the Balkans and the most plausible reason.
You want
to know what credibility means, ask your favorite Mafia Don. He’ll
explain to you what credibility means. And it’s the same in
international affairs, except it’s talked about in universities using
big words, and that sort of thing. But it’s basically the same
principle. And it makes sense. And it usually works. The main
historian who has written about this in the last couple years is
Charles Tilly with a book called Coercion, Capital, and European
States. He points out that violence has been the leading principle of
Europe for hundreds of years and the reason is because it works. You
know, it’s very reasonable. It almost always works. When you have an
overwhelming predominance of violence and a culture of violence behind
it. So therefore it makes sense to follow it. Well, those are all
problems in pursuing lawful paths. And if you did try to follow them
you’d really open some very dangerous doors. Like the US is demanding
that the Taliban hand over Osama bin Laden. And they are responding in
a way which is regarded as totally absurd and outlandish in the west,
namely they are saying, Ok, but first give us some evidence. In the
west, that is considered ludicrous. It’s a sign of their criminality.
How can they ask for evidence? I mean if somebody asked us to hand
someone over, we’d do it tomorrow. We wouldn’t ask for any evidence.
[crowd laughter].
Haiti
In fact
it is easy to prove that. We don’t have to make up cases. So for
example, for the last several years, Haiti has been requesting the
United States to extradite Emmanuel Constant. He is a major killer. He
is one of the leading figures in the slaughter of maybe 4000 or 5000
people in the years in the mid 1990’s, under the military junta, which
incidentally was being, not so tacitly, supported by the Bush and the
Clinton administrations contrary to illusions. Anyway he is a leading
killer. They have plenty of evidence. No problem about evidence. He
has already been brought to trial and sentenced in Haiti and they are
asking the United States to turn him over. Well, I mean do your own
research. See how much discussion there has been of that. Actually
Haiti renewed the request a couple of weeks ago. It wasn’t even
mentioned. Why should we turn over a convicted killer who was largely
responsible for killing 4000 or 5000 people a couple of years ago. In
fact, if we do turn him over, who knows what he would say. Maybe he’ll
say that he was being funded and helped by the CIA, which is probably
true. We don’t want to open that door. And he is not he only one.
Costa
Rica
I mean,
for the last about 15 years, Costa Rica which is the democratic prize,
has been trying to get the United States to hand over a John Hull, a
US land owner in Costa Rica, who they charge with terrorist crimes. He
was using his land, they claim with good evidence as a base for the US
war against Nicaragua, which is not a controversial conclusion,
remember. There is the World Court and Security Council behind it. So
they have been trying to get the United States to hand him over. Hear
about that one? No.
They did
actually confiscate the land of another American landholder, John
Hamilton. Paid compensation, offered compensation. The US refused.
Turned his land over into a national park because his land was also
being used as a base for the US attack against Nicaragua. Costa Rica
was punished for that one. They were punished by withholding aid. We
don’t accept that kind of insubordination from allies. And we can go
on. If you open the door to questions about extradition it leads in
very unpleasant directions. So that can’t be done.
Reactions in Afghanistan
Well,
what about the reactions in Afghanistan. The initial proposal, the
initial rhetoric was for a massive assault which would kill many
people visibly and also an attack on other countries in the region.
Well the Bush administration wisely backed off from that. They were
being told by every foreign leader, NATO, everyone else, every
specialist, I suppose, their own intelligence agencies that that would
be the stupidest thing they could possibly do. It would simply be like
opening recruiting offices for bin Laden all over the region. That’s
exactly what he wants. And it would be extremely harmful to their own
interests. So they backed off that one. And they are turning to what I
described earlier which is a kind of silent genocide. It’s a…. well, I
already said what I think about it. I don’t think anything more has to
be said. You can figure it out if you do the arithmetic.
A
sensible proposal which is kind of on the verge of being considered,
but it has been sensible all along, and it is being raised, called for
by expatriate Afghans and allegedly tribal leaders internally, is for
a UN initiative, which would keep the Russians and Americans out of
it, totally. These are the 2 countries that have practically wiped the
country out in the last 20 years. They should be out of it. They
should provide massive reparations. But that’s their only role. A UN
initiative to bring together elements within Afghanistan that would
try to construct something from the wreckage. It’s conceivable that
that could work, with plenty of support and no interference. If the US
insists on running it, we might as well quit. We have a historical
record on that one.
You will
notice that the name of this operation….remember that at first it was
going to be a Crusade but they backed off that because PR (public
relations) agents told them that that wouldn’t work [audience
laughter]. And then it was going to be Infinite Justice, but the PR
agents said, wait a minute, you are sounding like you are divinity. So
that wouldn’t work. And then it was changed to enduring freedom. We
know what that means. But nobody has yet pointed out, fortunately,
that there is an ambiguity there. To endure means to suffer. [audience
laughter]. And a there are plenty of people around the world who have
endured what we call freedom. Again, fortunately we have a very
well-behaved educated class so nobody has yet pointed out this
ambiguity. But if its done there will be another problem to deal with.
But if we can back off enough so that some more or less independent
agency, maybe the UN, maybe credible NGO’s (non governmental
organizations) can take the lead in trying to reconstruct something
from the wreckage, with plenty of assistance and we owe it to them.
Them maybe something would come out. Beyond that, there are other
problems.
An
Easy Way To Reduce The Level Of Terror
We
certainly want to reduce the level of terror, certainly not escalate
it. There is one easy way to do that and therefore it is never
discussed. Namely stop participating in it. That would automatically
reduce the level of terror enormously. But that you can’t discuss.
Well we ought to make it possible to discuss it. So that’s one easy
way to reduce the level of terror.
Beyond
that, we should rethink the kinds of policies, and Afghanistan is not
the only one, in which we organize and train terrorist armies. That
has effects. We’re seeing some of these effects now. September 11th is
one. Rethink it.
Rethink
the policies that are creating a reservoir of support. Exactly what
the bankers, lawyers and so on are saying in places like Saudi Arabia.
On the streets it’s much more bitter, as you can imagine. That’s
possible. You know, those policies aren’t graven in stone.
And
further more there are opportunities. It’s hard to find many rays of
light in the last couple of weeks but one of them is that there is an
increased openness. Lots of issues are open for discussion, even in
elite circles, certainly among the general public, that were not a
couple of weeks ago. That’s dramatically the case. I mean, if a
newspaper like USA Today can run a very good article, a serious
article, on life in the Gaza Strip…there has been a change. The things
I mentioned in the Wall Street Journal…that’s change. And among the
general public, I think there is much more openness and willingness to
think about things that were under the rug and so on. These are
opportunities and they should be used, at least by people who accept
the goal of trying to reduce the level of violence and terror,
including potential threats that are extremely severe and could make
even September 11th pale into insignificance. Thanks. |